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#80 - Alex Lieberman opens up about his move from CEO to Executive Chairman

“I would say the last 3 months have been probably the most anxious months of the last 6 years for me.”

Jun 5, 2021

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#28 - Can Roam justify the $200m valuation?

Dan interviews Nathan about his latest essay on Roam, the $200 million dollar note-taking app. How did you feel about this episode? Amazing

Sep 19, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#17 - How should we compensate creators?

Nathan and Dan discuss how a new kind of media business model requires them to rethink how to fairly compensate writers for the bundle. Ho

Aug 5, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#25 - Behind the scenes of our first ad deal

Nathan and Dan talk to Brian McCullough, host of the Techmeme Ride Home podcast, about how the ad deal in last week’s Bundle Digest came abo

Sep 2, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#23 - Designing our visual identity

We’re launching a new series to bring you along the journey of figuring out Every’s visual identity! The first episode (which is longer tha

Aug 26, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#47 - What founders can learn from Slack’s story

Reacting to the news of Slack’s purchase by Salesforce, Nathan gets into the different opportunities in hardware vs. software and Dan goes d

Dec 3, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#18 - How do we decide what to publish?

Nathan and Dan discuss how they test for what kind of content resonates. P.S. — Here’s the essay on Oatly’s marketing by Nat Eliason just p

Aug 7, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#22 - A behind-the-scenes look into a media deal ft. Li Jin

Li Jin, who co-hosts Means of Creation with Nathan, comes on the show to discuss the economics of her partnership with Every. How did you

Aug 21, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#37 - Better Business Writing

What began as a weekly “Great Writing” meeting is now the newest member of the bundle! Dan and Nathan reflect on how their joint desire to g

Oct 21, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#41 - A Bad Situation…Compounded

Special Emergency Pod! We invited our friend Mario Gabriele on the show to talk about his experience this week publicly staring down a $6 b

Nov 2, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#20 - Couples therapy ft. executive coach Brian Wang

Brian Wang joins Nathan and Dan on a special episode that’s longer than usual! Brian’s an executive coach who helps founders with the emoti

Aug 14, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#87 - How Joshua Ogundu found a therapist

Nathan and Dan welcome Joshua Ogundu, a fellow member of the LA tech community, to the podcast for an open and insightful conversation about

Jul 22, 2021

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#30 - Giving your brain novelty, for fun and profit

Nathan interviews Dan about his latest Superorganizers article, “Dopamine Stacking.” Why are we always compelled to try new tools, which of

Sep 25, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#24 - Are we a tech or media company?

Dan and Nathan discuss productivity cycles, the latest version of Sparkle, Dan’s file management system, and how they relate to Nathan’s new

Aug 28, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#94 - Ted Lasso Recap S2 E6: How to tell a friend you’re worried about them

(Spoilers, as usual!) In the this episode of Ted Lasso, Higgins decides to take Coach Beard aside and ask him whether he really thinks it's

Sep 7, 2021 by Dan Shipper, Nathan Baschez, and Rachel Jepsen

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#39 - Cultivating Caring

Using the exciting new launch of Ask Jerry as a springboard, Nathan and Dan parse out the importance of radical self-inquiry in business, an

Oct 29, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#33 - How to use Spatial Organizing

Dan takes Nathan through his Superorganizers piece on Spatial Organizing. The technique is useful for a pretty much any project, from writin

Oct 7, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#8 - The model was actually right!

Four months ago, when we only had a couple hundred paying subscribers, Adam Keesling made a financial model that predicted we’d have 1,462 c

Jul 1, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#15 - Maker weeks & feedback loops

Two things today: First, a bit of follow-up from last episode. We’re alternating weeks where one of us is in “maker mode” and the other is i

Jul 24, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#19 - What should we do with our weekly digest?

Nathan and Dan talk through the experiments they’ve run with the weekly Sunday digests and what they’re going to try next. Here’s the link t

Aug 12, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#26 - A post-vacation catch-up

Nathan and Dan discuss Superorganizers and Bundle Digest updates and the books they read on vacation. Books mentioned: Of Mice and Men by J

Sep 9, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#51 - How content has network effects

Nathan takes Dan behind his latest Divinations essay, “Why Content is King,” from the writing process—which included drafting the piece in l

Dec 19, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#1 - The Bundle Digest

Dan and Nathan start out discussing the concept of Talk Therapy: a place to talk about the process of building a media business as it happen

Jun 9, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#27 - How can we give the Bundle Digest its own identity?

Nathan interviews Dan about the latest Bundle Digest experiment and the overall strategy to make it into its own newsletter. How did you fe

Sep 11, 2020 by Dan Shipper and Nathan Baschez

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#63 - Creative obsession: a gift and a curse

Returning from a weeklong vacation, Nathan fills Dan in on the thinking he's been doing about burnout and its causes. They discuss how to te

Mar 18, 2021