Talk Therapy

What happens when two friends start a media business?

Jun 5, 2021

#80 - Alex Lieberman opens up about his move from CEO to Executive Chairman

“I would say the last 3 months have been probably the most anxious months of the last 6 years for me.”

Sep 19, 2020

#28 - Can Roam justify the $200m valuation?

Dan interviews Nathan about his latest essay on Roam, the $200 million dollar note-taking app. How did you feel about this episode? Amazing

Sep 18, 2021

Ted Lasso Recap: How our parents affect us

(Spoilers, as usual!)In this special double-header, we recap episodes 7 and 8, and discuss some of the biggest questions of the season so fa

Aug 26, 2020

#23 - Designing our visual identity

We’re launching a new series to bring you along the journey of figuring out Every’s visual identity! The first episode (which is longer tha

Sep 7, 2021

#94 - Ted Lasso Recap S2 E6: How to tell a friend you’re worried about them

(Spoilers, as usual!) In the this episode of Ted Lasso, Higgins decides to take Coach Beard aside and ask him whether he really thinks it's

Aug 5, 2020

#17 - How should we compensate creators?

Nathan and Dan discuss how a new kind of media business model requires them to rethink how to fairly compensate writers for the bundle. Ho

Oct 7, 2020

#33 - How to use Spatial Organizing

Dan takes Nathan through his Superorganizers piece on Spatial Organizing. The technique is useful for a pretty much any project, from writin

Jul 17, 2020

#13 - Disruption and its discontents

Dan interviews Nathan about his forthcoming series of Divinations essays that explore critiques of the traditional theory of disruption. In

Aug 28, 2020

#24 - Are we a tech or media company?

Dan and Nathan discuss productivity cycles, the latest version of Sparkle, Dan’s file management system, and how they relate to Nathan’s new

Apr 18, 2021

#72 - Does the score always take care of itself?

After Nathan shares his recent run of reading material, he and Dan wonder if the more intense leadership styles layed out in books on manage

Mar 18, 2021

#63 - Creative obsession: a gift and a curse

Returning from a weeklong vacation, Nathan fills Dan in on the thinking he's been doing about burnout and its causes. They discuss how to te

Aug 7, 2020

#18 - How do we decide what to publish?

Nathan and Dan discuss how they test for what kind of content resonates. P.S. — Here’s the essay on Oatly’s marketing by Nat Eliason just p

Jun 9, 2020

#1 - The Bundle Digest

Dan and Nathan start out discussing the concept of Talk Therapy: a place to talk about the process of building a media business as it happen

Dec 10, 2020

#48 - Consumable Software

Nathan loops Dan in on something he thought was a problem: falling in and out of love with different software too quickly. Turns out, it’s m

Sep 2, 2020

#25 - Behind the scenes of our first ad deal

Nathan and Dan talk to Brian McCullough, host of the Techmeme Ride Home podcast, about how the ad deal in last week’s Bundle Digest came abo

Jan 27, 2021

#53 - Drop the ‘thing’ — it’s cleaner

Looking back and ahead after the launch

Dec 17, 2020

#50 - Substack Reader is here! Is it good?

Dan and Nathan address the news that’s been dominating the Everything Slack all day: Substack’s long-awaited reader, which collects your new

Aug 19, 2020

#21 - What’s the right kind of bad?

In a follow-up to their conversation with executive coach Brian Wang last episode, Dan and Nathan discuss addressing small pain points — bot

Dec 3, 2020

#47 - What founders can learn from Slack’s story

Reacting to the news of Slack’s purchase by Salesforce, Nathan gets into the different opportunities in hardware vs. software and Dan goes d

Aug 21, 2021

#91 - Handling your colleagues’ emotions

In reflecting on a recent gap in their respective enthusiasm towards a new chapter for Every, Dan and Nathan discuss how coworkers and colla

Aug 21, 2020

#22 - A behind-the-scenes look into a media deal ft. Li Jin

Li Jin, who co-hosts Means of Creation with Nathan, comes on the show to discuss the economics of her partnership with Every. How did you

Nov 12, 2020

#43 - The Power of Constraints

Nathan walks Dan through the ideas and strategy behind his new Divinations series, Three Shorts. How do you get from the Zone of Ignorance t

Jul 22, 2021

#87 - How Joshua Ogundu found a therapist

Nathan and Dan welcome Joshua Ogundu, a fellow member of the LA tech community, to the podcast for an open and insightful conversation about

Jul 24, 2020

#15 - Maker weeks & feedback loops

Two things today: First, a bit of follow-up from last episode. We’re alternating weeks where one of us is in “maker mode” and the other is i