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#48 - Consumable Software

By Dan Shipper Talk Therapy

Dan Shipper is the CEO and cofounder of Every. Every week he explores the frontiers of AI in his column, Chain of Thought, and on his podcast, ‘AI & I.’

By Nathan Baschez Talk Therapy

Nathan Baschez is the cofounder and CEO of AI word processor Lex. He cofounded Every, was the first employee at Substack, and co-created Product Hunt.

Talk Therapy

#48 - Consumable Software

Nathan loops Dan in on something he thought was a problem: falling in and out of love with different software too quickly. Turns out, it’s m

Dan Shipper

Nathan Baschez

Dec 10, 2020 · 1 min readUpdated Jan 29, 2026

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Nathan loops Dan in on something he thought was a problem: falling in and out of love with different software too quickly. Turns out, it’s maybe not a problem at all—it’s the kind of cycle we should lean into more often. Listen through for how seeking novelty can help break monotony, and why you shouldn’t moralize about your own productivity.

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