‘AI & I’: Slowing down to speed up

Today, we’re releasing a new episode of our podcast AI & I. Dan Shipper sits down with Karri Saarinen, cofounder and CEO of Linear, a product management tool designed for agent-native software development, to discuss what the “SaaS is dead” narrative gets right—and wrong—and why conviction can be the best product strategy.

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Here are the highlights:

• Just because the technology has changed doesn’t mean your mission should. Founded in 2019, Linear is the rare company that started pre-ChatGPT to have successfully reinvented itself as an agent-native business. Saarinen attributes Linear’s success to never losing sight of what it’s always cared about: helping companies build great software. Whereas competitors chased AI trends, Linear focused on understanding how the technology was impacting customers’ workflows, and updating its service accordingly.
• SaaS winners are building for agents. Linear started as an excellent product management tool for humans. Opening up the tool to agents instantly increased the available user base. Today, agents are first-class users inside of Linear, and companies like OpenAI and Coinbase are using its platform to manage their own agents.
• Speed means decisions matter more, not less. AI makes it easy to have an idea and build it without considering whether it justifies its existence. When ChatGPT was released, SaaS companies were launching their own chatbots left, right, and center. Instead of jumping on the bandwagon, Linear stopped to consider whether the application was useful. Turns out it really wasn’t, Saarinen says, a realization that freed up resources to focus on what mattered, like making it easy for humans and agents to collaborate on software development.

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