Transcript: 'What Jason Fried Learned from 26 Years of B uilding Great Products' 'AI & I' with the 37signals cofounder and CEO
Nov 5, 2025 · 45 min read Updated Sep 18, 2026
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Timestamps
Introduction: 00:00:32
What architecture, watches, and cars teach us about software: 00:02:06
How Jason thinks AI plays into product-building: 00:10:54
How developers at 37signals use AI: 00:20:58
Jason’s biggest realization after 26 years of running 37signals: 00:25:47
Where Jason thinks luck shaped his career: 00:29:58
What Jason would do if he were graduated into the AI boom: 00:32:41
Dan asks for advice on running a non-traditional company like Every: 00:37:22
Why staying true to yourself is the only way to build something lasting: 00:46:39
Wholeness as the north star for building products—and companies: 00:49:38
Transcript
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Dan Shipper
Jason, welcome to the show.
Jason Fried
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