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Transcript: 'How AI Can Help Fix Our Brains'
'AI & I' with psychiatrist and writer Awais Aftab
Jun 4, 2025 · 34 min readUpdated May 22, 2026
The transcript of AI & I with Awais Aftab is below. Watch on X or YouTube, or listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
Timestamps
- Introduction: 00:01:20
- The case Awais makes for pluralistic thinking in psychiatry: 00:03:38
- A pragmatic approach to mental healthcare: 00:15:30
- Awais’s take on why Dan’s OCD diagnosis took 10 years: 00:19:04
- Why psychiatry is stuck where machine learning was decades ago: 00:24:19
- Why psychiatry’s focus should shift from explanations to predictions: 00:31:05
- How Awais thinks AI is already changing the psychiatric profession: 00:39:19
Transcript
(00:00:00)
Dan Shipper
Awais, welcome to the show.
Awais Aftab
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