Transcript: ‘The AI Model Built for What LLMs Can't Do’

The transcript of AI & I with Eve Bodnia is below. Watch on X or YouTube, or listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.

Timestamps

1. Introduction: 00:00:51
2. Why correctness and verifiability matter in AI: 00:02:09
3. What an energy-based model is: 00:09:33
4. How EBMs construct energy landscapes to understand data: 00:14:21
5. Why modeling intelligence through language alone is a flawed approach: 00:19:00
6. What it means for a model to “understand” data: 00:26:54
7. How EBMs solve the vibe coding problem and enable formally verified code: 00:37:21
8. Why LLM progress is plateauing: 00:43:21
9. Mission-critical industries haven’t adopted LLMs, and why EBMs can fill that gap: 00:49:54

Transcript

Dan

Eve, welcome to the show.

Eve

Hi. Thanks for having me.