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Transcript: What Jhana Meditation Can Teach Us About LLMs
‘AI & I’ with Nadia Asparouhova
May 7, 2025 · 41 min readUpdated Jul 25, 2026
The transcript of AI & I with Nadia Asparouhova is below. Watch on X or YouTube, or listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
Timestamps
- Introduction: 00:01:15
- The beginning of Nadia’s journey with Jhana: 00:02:34
- How Jhana is different from other meditation practices: 00:05:51
- Jhana reframed the way Nadia thinks about being human: 00:09:52
- How Nadia integrates her experience with Jhana into her life: 00:14:16
- Nadia describes her experience of the final stage of Jhana: 00:16:44
- Why our modern sense of self isn’t as timeless as you might assume: 00:19:11
- How new technologies can be a mirror to ourselves: 00:23:53
- Nadia embraces the feeling of not knowing how AI precisely works: 00:33:55
- How Nadia uses ChatGPT to make writing less isolating: 00:38:03
Transcript
(00:01:15)
Dan Shipper
Nadia, welcome to the show.
Nadia Asparouhova
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