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Transcript: 'How AI Startups Can Win With Better Strategy'

Transcript: 'How AI Startups Can Win With Better Strategy'

By Dan Shipper AI & I

Dan Shipper is the CEO and cofounder of Every. Every week he explores the frontiers of AI in his column, Chain of Thought, and on his podcast, ‘AI & I.’

Transcript: 'How AI Startups Can Win With Better Strategy'

'AI & I' with investor Mike Maples

Mar 5, 2025 · 46 min readUpdated May 4, 2026

The transcript of AI & I with Mike Maples is below. Watch on X or YouTube, or listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.

Timestamps

Introduction: 00:02:20
Innovate the business model, not just the product: 00:06:02
How startups can compete against the likes of OpenAI: 00:15:49
Mike’s take on DeepSeek: 00:19:34
Why the future has always belonged to the tinkerers: 00:21:44
How small teams today can make big money: 00:24:03
Find niches that incumbents can’t or don’t want to enter: 00:28:55
The qualities of the truly AI-native: 00:45:50
How AI changes the funding model for software companies: 00:52:28
Knowledge work is moving toward systems-level thinking: 00:57:05

Transcript

Dan Shipper (00:02:20)

Mike, welcome to the show.

Mike Maples (00:02:21)

Thanks for having me. I've been looking forward to this.

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