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The Man Inside the Minds of the People Building AGI

Executive coach Joe Hudson says that by facing the uncertainty of the AI age, we can unlock tremendous personal growth

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TL;DR: Today we’re releasing a new episode of our podcast AI & I. Dan Shipper goes in depth with Joe Hudson, an executive coach to the brightest minds at OpenAI. Watch on X or YouTube, or listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts. Here’s a link to the episode transcript.

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Joe Hudson is a coach who works with the executives building AGI at OpenAI.

From inside OpenAI, he witnesses the full spectrum of human emotion that comes with bringing something new into the world—the exhilaration, the terror, the weight of it all. He feels these emotions, too: He believes AI will eventually replace what he does as a coach.

But instead of fixating on that fear, Hudson is asking a deeper question: Who is he becoming in the meantime? He believes that moments like this—when we can feel the ground quiver—can be powerful catalysts for transformation, but only if we’re willing to face the uncertainty they bring.

In this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sits down with Hudson to talk about how he’s answering that question. They get into what happens when the thing you’ve built your life around might disappear, how to find who you are beneath your professional identity, and why Hudson believes intention is the key to growing with AI.

You can check out their full conversation here:

If you want a quick summary, here are some of the themes they touch on:

AI can replace your skills, not your essence

Hudson is living through this moment of transformation alongside us. When Dan asks him how it affects him personally, he describes feeling “massive grief” about AI’s potential to replace human coaches.

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Comments

Theo Barth about 2 months ago

Fantastic interview! I truly value how they introduce fresh ideas regarding the AI-human relationship.