Transcript: ‘We Automated Everything With AI and Tripled Our Headcount’

The transcript of AI & I, in which Every COO Brandon Gell interviews me about “After Automation”—my 8,000-word essay on why AI creates more work for humans—is below. Watch on X or YouTube, or listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.

Timestamps

1. Introduction: 00:00:51

2. The AI paradox: more automation, more human work: 00:05:51

3. How AI makes yesterday’s expert competence cheap: 00:10:00

4. AI can act autonomously but it does not have agency: 00:18:00

5. Why Dan is all in on AGI: 00:20:39

6. AI layoffs are a lie: 00:21:57