Dan Shipper is the CEO and cofounder of Every. Every week he explores the frontiers of AI in his column, Chain of Thought, and on his podcast, ‘AI & I.’
Transcript: 'How to Predict the Future Like Kevin Kelly'
'AI & I’ with the 'Wired' cofounder
Apr 23, 2025 · 35 min readUpdated Jul 23, 2026
The transcript of AI & I with Kevin Kelly is below. Watch on X or YouTube, or listen on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.
Timestamps
- Introduction: 00:00:50
- Why Dan and Kelly love Annie Dillard: 00:01:10
- Learn how to predict the future like Kelly: 00:12:52
- What the history of electricity can teach us about AI: 00:16:10
- How Kelly thinks about the nature of intelligence: 00:20:13
- Kelly’s advice on discovering your competitive advantage: 00:25:44
- The story of how Kelly assembled a bench of star writers for Wired: 00:29:33
- How Kelly used ChatGPT to co-create a book: 00:34:43
- Using AI as a mirror for your mind: 00:39:12
- What Kelly learned from betting on VR in the 1980s: 00:43:43
Transcript
(00:00:00)
Dan Shipper
Kevin, welcome to the show.
Kevin Kelly
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